[BCFSN] the People's Coalition to Survive the Climate Food Emergency --- join us at WFWI

Sun Aug 11 14:15:06 EDT 2019

Thanks for bringing up this concern Ian, and giving me the opportunity to clarify that, If anything I believe and intended my language to recognize the significance of  traditional indigenous governance and how basic the dynamics are to all humans. We all came from indigenous cultures at one point. I believe that one of our follies has been to be aware of extinguishing species = DNA, e.g. knowing how to be a buffalo, but not indigenous, sustainable cultures (culture = the DNA one organizational level up - multi-organismal organisms) that we have been wiping out.

andre

Andre C. Piver MD
6774 Harrop Procter Rd.
Nelson, B.C., V1L 6R2
Canada , tel 250.229 4665

> On Aug 11, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Grandview Woodland Food Connection . <gwfcnetwork at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I appreciate your work on the water issue.
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> I also need to call you out on your language around Indigenous peoples. Please be watchful of any language that denigrates Indigenous people.
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> Thank you,
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> Ian Marcuse
> Community Food Developer l Grandview Woodland Food Connection
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> Unceded sḵwx̱wú7mesh (Squamish), səl’ilwətaɁɬ (Tsleil-Waututh), and xʷməθkʷəy̓əm (Musqueam) territory
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> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 9:55 AM Andre Piver <andrepiver at shaw.ca <mailto:andrepiver at shaw.ca>> wrote:
> Even more absurd is a 4.5 year and counting, wait for an application for a license to accumulate water limited to during the rainy season only, thus reducing the need to tax a creek during low flow season competing with neighbours and wildlife…..the application has not even yet been assigned to a water stewardship “officer”…..commercial licenses displace small holder/farm applications over and over and there is insufficient staff with their requirement to tick boxes not including this type of obvious approach to climate change adaptation ….there are many chiefs and few poor “indians” left in our crazy top-down silos of "appearance of “ governance.
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> The extinction revolution needs to include our centralized governance processes…..back to small, local and what comes around goes around ….developmental environment required.
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> andre
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> Andre C. Piver MD
> 6774 Harrop Procter Rd.
> Nelson, B.C., V1L 6R2
> Canada , tel 250.229 4665
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> > On Aug 11, 2019, at 9:23 AM, JEN FISHER-BRADLEY <humandignity at shaw.ca <mailto:humandignity at shaw.ca>> wrote:
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> > That's messed up, join our movement, threaten them back, with tax revolt and non repayment of loans. 
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> > They have to shift direction, the people have to make them do it. 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jan Steinman <Jan at EcoReality.org>
> > To: food at bcfsn.org <mailto:food at bcfsn.org>
> > Sent: Fri, 09 Aug 2019 16:35:01 -0600 (MDT)
> > Subject: Re: [BCFSN] the People's Coalition to Survive the Climate Food Emergency --- join us at WFWI
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> >> From: JEN FISHER-BRADLEY <humandignity at shaw.ca <mailto:humandignity at shaw.ca>>
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> >> 4. … Create a program to pay: the water bills for urban farms, retrofits for rainwater and grey water capture, and water storage and irrigation, concentrating on areas with seasonal dryness. 
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> > In fact, just the opposite seems to be occurring.
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> > We have water licenses on two streams, and the rate we pay on these licenses has doubled in the past five years. And now, they want us to voluntarily register our well, with the stated intention that it may be necessary to charge people in the future for groundwater they draw. (With a threat like that, of course we did not register!) And the latest threat is to charge us "maintenance" on our water impoundment.
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> > I'm not looking for any sort of a hand-out; I just want the government to leave me the hell alone so I can focus on growing food, rather than jumping through bureaucratic hoops.
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> > Jan
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> Ian Marcuse
> Community Food Developer l Grandview Woodland Food Connection
> 604.718.5895 l gwfcnetwork at gmail.com <mailto:gwfcnetwork at gmail.com>
> Unceded sḵwx̱wú7mesh (Squamish), səl’ilwətaɁɬ (Tsleil-Waututh), and xʷməθkʷəy̓əm (Musqueam) territory
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